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Post by 1983 on Nov 4, 2009 17:50:15 GMT -5
Ok, now I just watched the part of 1992 that I have never seen before with Bill and Holly. I watched quite a few episodes of this and noticed that ES did not look happy on the show at all at this time.
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Post by Giada on Nov 5, 2009 3:54:15 GMT -5
For me was a shock to see Holly in a tub with Bill  Emma looks so beautiful and I always regret that we couldn't see Holly in a tub with Robert in 1992  |
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Post by laura on Nov 5, 2009 10:55:33 GMT -5
Ok, now I just watched the part of 1992 that I have never seen before with Bill and Holly. I watched quite a few episodes of this and noticed that ES did not look happy on the show at all at this time. Emma Samms did say it wasn't too hard for her to leave GH in 93 so I guess you are right she probably wasn't as happy with her time after her initial return and when Tristan's left. I can't say that I really blame her even I went from a regular viewer,to a sporadic one glancing every so often to quitting altogether. After Robert left It became boring instead of the writers developing Holly as the lead heroine that she were they immediately tied her with a Luke's lookalike.I didn't find L&H all that appealing even before Roberts came into the picture. I just never thought much of the pairing in the early 80's I definitely didn't want to see a redo with Bill.I was still hoping for a Robert's comeback and get my RH that what I wanted. I would have been more than happy to see Holly worked the police force since she was so good at it.I did watched more of Robert on his own then Holly on her own with Holly the then writers didn't understand her character or even knew the important of "R&H" and therefore they crap on them IMO. I think after Robert's memorial "Robert" became non existence to Holly like she never had this great love with this special man,and it didn't sit well with me a devoted "RHers" especially after having watch how "Holly" name cropped up every time Robert tried to start a new relationship. I never had any problem with any of Robert's post Holly relationships because we were shown that Holly was still the most important woman in his life even if she was "dead" with Holly we never got that. I know now that the only reason"R&H" got the respect and "Holly" got so many mentions during Robert's time on his own was because of Tristan the writers simply don't care about couples plus new writers comes in and don't even know the history. They just want to moved the character on to the next pairing in which case they did with Holly paired her with Bill and that was a big mistake. I thought it was strange she was with Robert's family and yet she never mention him.The writers moved Holly along to her next relationship and forgot about her past with the love of her life funny how they manage to bring up Luke's name though of course because she was dating his lookalike. When you compare how exciting and amazing it was when Tristan/Robert were around and how incredible they were together seeing Holly with the other dead weights was a complete letdown for me. |
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Post by lakesgirl on Nov 5, 2009 13:36:26 GMT -5
Awesome post, Laura!
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Post by *Robert-Holly-Fan* on Nov 6, 2009 0:44:16 GMT -5
Oh wow, I never knew that Tristan said that about Emma in 2006! That is so cool. They do have probably the best kisses in daytime ever! I bet working together in 1992 brought back alot of good memories for them. Absolutely no doubt about that!!!!!  Lots of practice on and "Off" screen!! ;D Practice makes "perfection" ;D  |
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Post by *Robert-Holly-Fan* on Nov 6, 2009 1:00:14 GMT -5
From everything I've read, I have to surmise that Tristan and Emma are fine with each other. In fact, I would bet they would LOVE to reunite Robert and Holly and for them to have some decent scenes together. They have to know R&H made an impact and I'd like to think they would like for R&H to have some closure. If only we had a regime that CARED about Robert and Holly.  I have no doubts they would like to see some kind of closure for the fans. They worked hard to create a "once in a lifetime" couple. But, sadly the time is ticking rapidly away for that closure. Tristan is 63 and Emma is 50. I really doubt TPTB are the least bit interested in creating any more story for a couple they consider "past their prime" in the soap world. All the current regime seems to be interested in is how much history they can rewrite and how quickly they can destroy the characters in the process.  It is still a mystery to me why Emma even agreed to return in 2009 after the absolute mess created in 2006. Truly frustrating.  |
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Post by *Robert-Holly-Fan* on Nov 6, 2009 1:12:30 GMT -5
[ Ohhh I never knew that?? He picked Emma as best kisser wow that put a smile to my face. Yes beh we know their HOT kisses ;D And when they were a couple the kisses should be very very hot  So true Giada!! I think we can all tell their kisses became much more than "just a job" once they were together off screen. ;D Hard to miss the "passion and intensity" once Emma and TR became an item.  |
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Post by Giada on Nov 6, 2009 4:40:45 GMT -5
Emma Samms did say it wasn't too hard for her to leave GH in 93 so I guess you are right she probably wasn't as happy with her time after her initial return and when Tristan's left. If Tristan staied the story between Robert and Holly (and Anna) would be interesting even for the actors, but without him Emma's return was sad Robert was the leading man and when he left GH became boring. Good point! Holly was a complex character (and for this so beautiful) and the writers seemed not understand her. Yes, for Tristan was important do not forget or destroy RnH. And also for this Robert was a strong character, because Tristan has made a really good work I totally agree. Holly wasn't Holly without Robert and for this I can't see her with other men. Great post Laura! I'm italian and english is not my language. I hope you will understand all that I say ;D Giada |
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Post by laura on Nov 6, 2009 9:41:19 GMT -5
From everything I've read, I have to surmise that Tristan and Emma are fine with each other. In fact, I would bet they would LOVE to reunite Robert and Holly and for them to have some decent scenes together. They have to know R&H made an impact and I'd like to think they would like for R&H to have some closure. If only we had a regime that CARED about Robert and Holly. I have no doubts they would like to see some kind of closure for the fans. They worked hard to create a "once in a lifetime" couple. But, sadly the time is ticking rapidly away for that closure. Tristan is 63 and Emma is 50. I really doubt TPTB are the least bit interested in creating any more story for a couple they consider "past their prime" in the soap world. All the current regime seems to be interested in is how much history they can rewrite and how quickly they can destroy the characters in the process. It is still a mystery to me why Emma even agreed to return in 2009 after the absolute mess created in 2006. Truly frustrating. They could reunite Robert and Holly offscreen without ever bringing the actors back.Which would be fine with me because every time they bring Holly's back she gets worse and now they're touching R&H foundation which was very upsetting for me. A simple line in passing from Robin,Mac,or even Ethan saying that they're together would be enough for me the writers can't write anything good so the less the better. |
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Post by lakesgirl on Nov 6, 2009 13:57:45 GMT -5
I have no doubts they would like to see some kind of closure for the fans. They worked hard to create a "once in a lifetime" couple. But, sadly the time is ticking rapidly away for that closure. Tristan is 63 and Emma is 50. I really doubt TPTB are the least bit interested in creating any more story for a couple they consider "past their prime" in the soap world. All the current regime seems to be interested in is how much history they can rewrite and how quickly they can destroy the characters in the process. It is still a mystery to me why Emma even agreed to return in 2009 after the absolute mess created in 2006. Truly frustrating. They could reunite Robert and Holly offscreen without ever bringing the actors back.Which would be fine with me because every time they bring Holly's back she gets worse and now they're touching R&H foundation which was very upsetting for me. A simple line in passing from Robin,Mac,or even Ethan saying that they're together would be enough for me the writers can't write anything good so the less the better. That would be fine with me too, Laura. In fact, I would LOVE it if Ethan were to go offscreen to find his real parents. I'm thinking NP's days are numbered on the show and what better way to throw long time viewers a bone than to De-Spencer him and have him go find Robert and Holly. However, I think TIIC would kill Ethan before they make him a Scorpio. |
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Post by *Robert-Holly-Fan* on Nov 7, 2009 1:33:01 GMT -5
I have no doubts they would like to see some kind of closure for the fans. They worked hard to create a "once in a lifetime" couple. But, sadly the time is ticking rapidly away for that closure. Tristan is 63 and Emma is 50. I really doubt TPTB are the least bit interested in creating any more story for a couple they consider "past their prime" in the soap world. All the current regime seems to be interested in is how much history they can rewrite and how quickly they can destroy the characters in the process. It is still a mystery to me why Emma even agreed to return in 2009 after the absolute mess created in 2006. Truly frustrating. They could reunite Robert and Holly off screen without ever bringing the actors back.Which would be fine with me because every time they bring Holly's back she gets worse and now they're touching R&H foundation which was very upsetting for me. A simple line in passing from Robin,Mac,or even Ethan saying that they're together would be enough for me the writers can't write anything good so the less the better. Not a bad idea. But, damn I would so want just a couple of Robert/Holly scenes to play out on screen. Just to see with my own two eyes they are happy once again. And get a chance to see TR and Emma one last time together as Robert & Holly. A couple of throw away lines by other actors would just not do it for me. Do I expect what I want with this current regime....No Would I want them to even attempt to try something......No So where does that leave us die-hard R/H fans?? Wanting some kind of closure, but not wanting it because we know TIIC of this mess called GH would just make things so much more worse. Truly sad indeed. |
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Post by laura on Nov 7, 2009 10:55:46 GMT -5
They could reunite Robert and Holly off screen without ever bringing the actors back.Which would be fine with me because every time they bring Holly's back she gets worse and now they're touching R&H foundation which was very upsetting for me. A simple line in passing from Robin,Mac,or even Ethan saying that they're together would be enough for me the writers can't write anything good so the less the better. Not a bad idea. But, damn I would so want just a couple of Robert/Holly scenes to play out on screen. Just to see with my own two eyes they are happy once again. And get a chance to see TR and Emma one last time together as Robert & Holly. A couple of throw away lines by other actors would just not do it for me. Do I expect what I want with this current regime....No Would I want them to even attempt to try something......No So where does that leave us die-hard R/H fans?? Wanting some kind of closure, but not wanting it because we know TIIC of this mess called GH would just make things so much more worse. Truly sad indeed. I'd never say never on a possibly return of Tristan and Emma on GH along as they're healthy and alive they can always come back. The thing is do we really want them back with this regimes? That's the real question for me I want them to go back but together and that where the problem lies. We can't get Emma&Tristan at the same time and when we do there's TG who have to be part of everything and we'd get a redux of 06..No thank I'm still pissed that R&H didn't get any alone time because of him. The Scorpios are still in port charles and so are the Spencers and as long as they're around it's always a chance for Robert and Holly to come for a brief visit. I hear Genie Francis may be on her way back and I never expected she'd want to come back but she actually sound very enthused about a possibly come back so things change all the time. Tristan said he'd go back for a story that make sense but it's isn't up to him. These actors knows their fans still want them back in these roles and I doubt any of them are cold and would deny their fans that pleasure. Beside from a business standpoint it's publicity for them so coming back work for them too. |
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Post by 1983 on Nov 21, 2009 23:03:47 GMT -5
Can anybody tell me what was Holly's relationship with Simon Romero. They sure can dance well together.
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Post by mike on Nov 22, 2009 0:36:14 GMT -5
Can anybody tell me what was Holly's relationship with Simon Romero. They sure can dance well together. Holly had a brief fling with Simon in San Sebastion after she came out of her coma. She tried to bury her feelings for Robert with Simon and quickly realized that wasn't gonna work so she broke it off with him but he was very hung up on her. I am of the mind that Luke and Holly's Singapore encounter was the first thing that happened to her when she came out of her coma. So by the time she met Simon, she was not only mourning the loss of her life with Robert but having given up her baby too. Holly has had a pretty rough life ever since that car crash. She deserves happiness with Robert ! |
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Post by 1983 on Nov 22, 2009 2:39:30 GMT -5
I am of the mind set that the whole singapore thing never happened. I refuse to accept that story. I continue to feel like Ethan is Roberts son.
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Emma looks so beautiful and I always regret that we couldn't see Holly in a tub with Robert in 1992 
