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Post by parismimi on Jun 11, 2013 0:06:02 GMT -5
Yeah I feel the same way. I hated the very existence of her. Wife and mother of his only kid. Had she just been an ex-girlfriend and no kid it wouldn't have been so bad maybe. Plus what compounded the hate for me anyway, was the fear that they were trying to replace Holly with Anna. Duke was a true miracle worker. But I never came to love Anna apart from him. On her own, I have no interest. As a romantic pairing with Robert, I would hate her every bit as much as I did in 1985. But with Duke, it's all good. Re-reading this thread, I am so glad to see that I am not the only one who found this excruciatingly painful to watch! I hated so much of this but nothing more than the sacrificing of Robert's character on the altar of Anna Devane! They tarnished his integrity which I found unforgivable. An ex-wife that he never told Holly about (that's not the Robert we had come to know and love!); the whole Swede thing; then to make sure Anna would be forever tied to him, she's the mother of his child - one that she kept from him for six years. I hated that Anna framed Holly, hated that she made herself at home in Holly's house even after Holly was gone. Hated that she stalked Robert for much of the story and how she insinuated herself into his life. I hated that whole scar bit (won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet); I hated that Robert was in a dour mood with either a scowl or a frown on his face for just about the ENTIRE story. I missed my snarky, funny, randy, tough yet tender, blissfully happy Commissioner; I hated that he and Holly were apart for so much of the story. I nearly jumped out of my seat when Robert finally found Holly and they made up. But don't get me started on the Asian Quarter storyline - watched it just to refresh my memories of Robin, but it brought back all the intense loathing I felt for Anna Devane. And to top it all off, I hated reading some of the comments of the Anna fans... Had to rewatch RnH falling in love just to get those negative vibes out of my system
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Post by parismimi on Jun 12, 2013 12:32:40 GMT -5
I'm up to the part now where Anna set Holly up with that damn statue. The cops are arresting her and it just amazes me when people wonder why I hate Anna Devane. In fact, it just amazes me as to why people like Anna at all. Her appeal escapes me as does Sean's at the moment. I never really warmed up to him that much either after what he did to Robert & Holly. Both are just major pieces of crap in my book. Robert and his moods during this particular time doesn't rate high with me right now either. And before anyone ask how is it I can't be upset with Holly for being a con or why can I forgive her, well that's simple. As a con Holly was a stranger to everyone in town, the fact that she made them believe there was oil in the city dump and that she owned it and that greed itself had them handing over all their cash as fast as possible in hopes of getting rich, was their own fault. She didn't sneak in and steal anything, she didn't break into their homes or their bank, or anything else and take it, they handed it to her willingly and in some cases against her will (Rose). She felt guilty and tried to reverse the situation and had Luke had an IQ higher than his shoe size, he would've seen that. Plus Holly was in jail for her part for what she did. Anna has yet to this day to pay for her crimes...which are considerably more major than anything Holly's ever done. Sean too in fact, has never really paid for his crimes either. Why is that? Okay I think I've got all the Anna hate out now. LOL, well, I've never gotten all of the Anna hate out of my system. I got to a point of tolerating her existence but I'll never understand the fanatical devotion to a traitor, liar, selfish, self-centered, inconsiderate, stalkerish, immoral, manipulative, whiny, insecure...well you get my drift, lol. Duke & Robin made her palatable, but truly I never cared for her and still don't, can't even stand the sound of her voice. As for Robert telling Anna he never lied to his wife, well, I can forgive him, because up until 1985, he didn't know he had an ex-wife either , and he hadn't lied to Holly about anything before then, lol. I'll take him at his word, plus he'd said so many lovely things to his true love and fought so hard to get her and to keep her and to make her happy, I'll forever be soft-hearted when it comes to my Robert. There are so many things that I hate about Anna's arrival, too many to get into. The one thing that happens regarding the Buddha statues she framed Holly with is that she gets payback for that during the Asian Quarter storyline and is put through hell. Karma's a b*tch. Okay, I'm going back to my RnH world where Anna Devane does not exist, lol!
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Post by raeperk57 on Aug 31, 2016 12:45:22 GMT -5
I love watching old R&H clips on youtube. I have all the R&H scenes on DVDs but sometimes I just want to watch a clip or two. I watched the "Coming Home" scenes from 1985 recently. Tristan and Emma are so good. And as much as I hated the Anna Devane storyline in 1985, it did give us these wonderful scenes. For some reason, "Coming Home part 3" is my favorite. I think this was the dress everyone was commenting on. I didn't like that dress either. It wasn't Holly, and it wasn't Fallon (although I never watched Dynasty or The Colbys. The few times I saw PSM in the role, she usually dressed classy but sedated.)
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Post by raeperk57 on Aug 31, 2016 12:58:34 GMT -5
Yeah I feel the same way. I hated the very existence of her. Wife and mother of his only kid. Had she just been an ex-girlfriend and no kid it wouldn't have been so bad maybe. Plus what compounded the hate for me anyway, was the fear that they were trying to replace Holly with Anna. Duke was a true miracle worker. But I never came to love Anna apart from him. On her own, I have no interest. As a romantic pairing with Robert, I would hate her every bit as much as I did in 1985. But with Duke, it's all good. Re-reading this thread, I am so glad to see that I am not the only one who found this excruciatingly painful to watch! I hated so much of this but nothing more than the sacrificing of Robert's character on the altar of Anna Devane! They tarnished his integrity which I found unforgivable. An ex-wife that he never told Holly about (that's not the Robert we had come to know and love!); the whole Swede thing; then to make sure Anna would be forever tied to him, she's the mother of his child - one that she kept from him for six years. I hated that Anna framed Holly, hated that she made herself at home in Holly's house even after Holly was gone. Hated that she stalked Robert for much of the story and how she insinuated herself into his life. I hated that whole scar bit (won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it yet); I hated that Robert was in a dour mood with either a scowl or a frown on his face for just about the ENTIRE story. I missed my snarky, funny, randy, tough yet tender, blissfully happy Commissioner; I hated that he and Holly were apart for so much of the story. I nearly jumped out of my seat when Robert finally found Holly and they made up. But don't get me started on the Asian Quarter storyline - watched it just to refresh my memories of Robin, but it brought back all the intense loathing I felt for Anna Devane. And to top it all off, I hated reading some of the comments of the Anna fans... Had to rewatch RnH falling in love just to get those negative vibes out of my system I totally agree with you, parismimi.
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Post by raeperk57 on Aug 31, 2016 13:08:01 GMT -5
I'm up to the part now where Anna set Holly up with that damn statue. The cops are arresting her and it just amazes me when people wonder why I hate Anna Devane. In fact, it just amazes me as to why people like Anna at all. Her appeal escapes me as does Sean's at the moment. I never really warmed up to him that much either after what he did to Robert & Holly. Both are just major pieces of crap in my book. Robert and his moods during this particular time doesn't rate high with me right now either. And before anyone ask how is it I can't be upset with Holly for being a con or why can I forgive her, well that's simple. As a con Holly was a stranger to everyone in town, the fact that she made them believe there was oil in the city dump and that she owned it and that greed itself had them handing over all their cash as fast as possible in hopes of getting rich, was their own fault. She didn't sneak in and steal anything, she didn't break into their homes or their bank, or anything else and take it, they handed it to her willingly and in some cases against her will (Rose). She felt guilty and tried to reverse the situation and had Luke had an IQ higher than his shoe size, he would've seen that. Plus Holly was in jail for her part for what she did. Anna has yet to this day to pay for her crimes...which are considerably more major than anything Holly's ever done. Sean too in fact, has never really paid for his crimes either. Why is that? Okay I think I've got all the Anna hate out now. LOL, well, I've never gotten all of the Anna hate out of my system. I got to a point of tolerating her existence but I'll never understand the fanatical devotion to a traitor, liar, selfish, self-centered, inconsiderate, stalkerish, immoral, manipulative, whiny, insecure...well you get my drift, lol. Duke & Robin made her palatable, but truly I never cared for her and still don't, can't even stand the sound of her voice. As for Robert telling Anna he never lied to his wife, well, I can forgive him, because up until 1985, he didn't know he had an ex-wife either , and he hadn't lied to Holly about anything before then, lol. I'll take him at his word, plus he'd said so many lovely things to his true love and fought so hard to get her and to keep her and to make her happy, I'll forever be soft-hearted when it comes to my Robert. There are so many things that I hate about Anna's arrival, too many to get into. The one thing that happens regarding the Buddha statues she framed Holly with is that she gets payback for that during the Asian Quarter storyline and is put through hell. Karma's a b*tch. Okay, I'm going back to my RnH world where Anna Devane does not exist, lol! Love and totally agree with both of your takes on Anna. I didn't stick around after Robert left, and I didn't remember the Asian Quarter story, but I do remember Robin's appearance. I just try my best to forget that her mother was so irresponsible as to allow her to be kidnapped to take her to Robert in the first place, simply because she couldn't stand that Robert had moved on and was more in love with Holly than he ever was with her.
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