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Post by diane75 on Mar 2, 2012 18:12:57 GMT -5
OK Commissioner, you words to our hope!!! I just hope Holly's character doesn't get screwed again. Compared to Anna and Robert's s/l, she isn't looking too good. Maybe it isn't the real Holly, maybe Helena created Shmolly, a Holly look alike!!!
PS- Someone on here mentioned coma baby S/L being the best and easiest option, what with all the baddies against Robert, Holly, Luke and Anna- sooo agree!!!
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Post by crazy4zen on Mar 2, 2012 18:40:06 GMT -5
I was also relieved Holly wasn't on today...lessens the chance of further ruination. Couldn't watch Robert either though, which saddens me. My upset over Holly spills over to Robert so I can't watch or enjoy either one.
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Post by mike on Mar 2, 2012 19:39:58 GMT -5
OK---my mind hasn't even thought of them not being married in the 80's. Why do people think that ?
Anything Holly said on Wed---the day we all freaked out---it was a lie to keep Ethan from being killed. So when she said that stuff about wanting Luke and he thought she trapped him and she was playing games with Robert----she was making that all up so Helena would have a plausible reason as to why Holly would pass off Ethan as Luke's when he was really Robert's. So to me, Thu canceled out Wed.
I'm still not convinced there was no coma. So far, Holly has never said she was not in a coma so unless she does say that, I still believe it happened. I know everyone ties this in so strongly to Mr. Big because of what Robin said----but Guza implied at least 2 other time periods for the conception as well. He had Lucky saying that Ethan and LuLu looked around the same age----that places the conception in the 90's. Holly said things that implied it happened after she came out of her coma---that implies 1989. Then Robin said 1986. How we can pin it anywhere for sure with Guza's shoddy writing is beyond me. So until Holly says she lied about being in a coma for 2 years, I do still believe she was.
What is worrying me now is the ABC Hotsheet. It says that Luke tries to keep Robert from jumping by saying Ethan is Robert's son. So this mean Luke lies about this just to try and save Robert. Does this mean we are not getting Ethan Scorpio----we are getting him as a Scorpio only as a pretense ? Both Luke and Holly will lie about this for Robert's sanity ? Why did they bother doing another DNA test ? I hope and pray Helena's test comes back that Luke is not the father. I hope that is the twist. That they want to pretend Ethan is a Scorpio but he really is. If he isn't then I don't get the point to any of this.
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Post by lakesgirl on Mar 2, 2012 20:21:47 GMT -5
Mike, the reason people don't think R&H were married is because of the comment Luke made to Ethan, "Maybe Holly had more of a relationship with Robert than we thought?" WTF? He knows they were married! See, I don't think real history counts. It's the history that they're telling us now that counts. "Holly plays games" "Holly tricked family man Luke into an affair", etc. So, not only is Ron rewriting the Guza stuff, but the 80s stuff as well. It couldn't be clearer to me. We're about to get royally screwed.
As hoodiefreak said, Fuck This Shit!
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Post by kcl on Mar 2, 2012 20:37:32 GMT -5
I understand why everyone is freaking out. If this were happening to Anna & Duke, I'd be reacting exactly the same way. But...I agree that you need to wait for the whole thing to play out. I didn't think anyone suggested that Holly & Robert were not married when Ethan was conceived. I'm not even making much of Luke's "Maybe Holly had more of a relationship with Robert than we thought." Fact is, Luke and Ethan have forged a bond. Each sees himself in the other, and they want to hold on to that relationship, so neither wants to believe that they aren't father and son. But I think everything Holly is saying now is misinformation---a red herring. There's little drama in her showing up and saying, "Robert is Ethan's dad," and having that be the end of it. So far as I can tell Cartini are doing EVERYTHING else on the show right so far---from the rest of the writing, to the pacing, to the segues/editing, to the freaking lighting and wardrobes---so try to keep the faith. I know it's hard.
And yes, it would be totally awesome to have Holly talk Robert off the bridge, and she is the best one to do it.
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Post by crazy4zen on Mar 2, 2012 20:51:34 GMT -5
Mike, the reason people don't think R&H were married is because of the comment Luke made to Ethan, "Maybe Holly had more of a relationship with Robert than we thought?" WTF? He knows they were married! See, I don't think real history counts. It's the history that they're telling us now that counts. "Holly plays games" "Holly tricked family man Luke into an affair", etc. So, not only is Ron rewriting the Guza stuff, but the 80s stuff as well. It couldn't be clearer to me. We're about to get royally screwed. As hoodiefreak said, Fuck This Shit! That kind of a rewrite is just as bad as the Guza bs. I haven't much cared for Luke in over a decade and I loathe him now. He knows exactly what kind of a relationship Robert and Holly had. He whined enough about them moving on when he returned from the dead. Haven't watched yet and unless things drastically improve, I don't plan to. I'd rather watch the GH playing in my head, which respects history and where Holly NEVER, EVER cheated on Robert much less with his best friend.
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Post by The Commish on Mar 2, 2012 21:35:37 GMT -5
All of what was said at Wyndemere was done for Helena's benefit.
Emma told us that even when we said "hey wait a minute" just wait for the end. The end is the best part. If we can't trust Emma, who can we? It's like she knew that we would be upset, and was telling us not to worry. We've waited for years, is a weekend really that long?
I have a feeling that certain other parties on other boards are stirring up all this anxiety. It's the reason I avoid other boards, especially the toxic ones.
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Post by mike on Mar 2, 2012 22:07:05 GMT -5
Did Luke use the word "relationship" ? I don't remember---I'd have to look at it again. When he said that, it didn't bother me. I kind of liked it actually. He said they had a LONG history together and I thought he said, maybe more than we even know.
I thought that was good to hear that RnH have a long history together because they do. And the more than we know thing---I took that to mean that maybe Ethan is really his. I never took it as RnH were never married. Even Helena called her Holly Sutton Scorpio--she wouldn't be known as a Scorpio if they were never married.
I hope we get a miracle next week. Ethan is Robert's and maybe they all leave together. I really don't think Robert is gonna think Robin is really alive and go off and investigate that.
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Post by rhda8386 on Mar 2, 2012 22:16:26 GMT -5
All of what was said at Wyndemere was done for Helena's benefit. Emma told us that even when we said "hey wait a minute" just wait for the end. The end is the best part. If we can't trust Emma, who can we? It's like she knew that we would be upset, and was telling us not to worry. We've waited for years, is a weekend really that long? I have a feeling that certain other parties on other boards are stirring up all this anxiety. It's the reason I avoid other boards, especially the toxic ones. ha, if you're talking about SOC, I'm kind of the one freaking out and stirring things up there ... RnA fans have actually been kind of quiet about this.
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Post by irishrose on Mar 2, 2012 23:08:27 GMT -5
Did Luke use the word "relationship" ? I don't remember---I'd have to look at it again. When he said that, it didn't bother me. I kind of liked it actually. He said they had a LONG history together and I thought he said, maybe more than we even know. I thought that was good to hear that RnH have a long history together because they do. And the more than we know thing---I took that to mean that maybe Ethan is really his. I never took it as RnH were never married. Even Helena called her Holly Sutton Scorpio--she wouldn't be known as a Scorpio if they were never married. I hope we get a miracle next week. Ethan is Robert's and maybe they all leave together. I really don't think Robert is gonna think Robin is really alive and go off and investigate that. Mike, something occurred to me while reading your comments about Robert and Holly. She had said that she couldn't get to Port Charles right away because she was working on a job. And at the same time, Anna couldn't get a hold of Robert right away. I know it's a stretch, but consider this. Could it be that Robert and Holly were working on something together concerning Ethan, or maybe bringing down Helena Cassadine? And unless I missed something, could it be possible that Robert already knows Ethan is his because Holly told him?
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Post by The Commish on Mar 2, 2012 23:20:42 GMT -5
I actually like this idea. They were working on a job together, and that's why they both got there at the same time.
I really don't think it's that much of a stretch, either.
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Post by lakesgirl on Mar 2, 2012 23:25:02 GMT -5
I actually like this idea. They were working on a job together, and that's why they both got there at the same time. I really don't think it's that much of a stretch, either. It sounds nice but two things make me think this is NOT happening. 1. TR said there is "no relationship". 2. SOD says on Thursday "Holly must face the music about her past".
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Post by The Commish on Mar 2, 2012 23:36:48 GMT -5
1. He said no evolving relationship.......I don't mind if Holly leaves and Robert goes after her. When they come back for May sweeps we can have the evolving relationship, and maybe a nice sauna or two.
2. Facing the music about lying to Ethan about who his father was? For lying to Luke about that Singapore BS? For keeping Robert's son from him? Is that the past to which they are referring? Cuz that works for me. ;D
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Post by lakesgirl on Mar 2, 2012 23:38:18 GMT -5
True, true Commish. ;D
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Post by The Commish on Mar 2, 2012 23:48:51 GMT -5
I'm curious, though, when was the SOD drop about Thursday posted? They didn't mean yesterday, did they? I'm really shocked that Holly will still be on by Thursday of next week.
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