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Post by Valerie on Jun 22, 2013 12:06:45 GMT -5
I'm working on some fic in which, among other things, I'm trying to fix the Ethan's-paternity debacle, and I need some help with the timeline. When Robert came back to Port Charles at the beginning of June 1987, did he say how long it had been since the plane crash that Holly had supposedly perished in? Anybody know? I'm trying to make stuff make sense, but it's impossible because the GH timeline is so effed up! Ethan's birthday is supposedly September 22, 1987, which actually is perfect timing for him to be a Scorpio coma baby because Robert returned to Australia from Port Charles in January of that year, so Ethan should've been a Welcome Home present from that R&H reunion. BUT...that also means Robert should've known Holly was pregnant before he went back to PC again in June 1987---she would've been 5 or 6 months along! So do we know when she got in the car/plane accident that comatized her? Was it much earlier than June '87? According to what Robert said when he dumped Autumn, Holly's death was eight months prior. Not sure exactly when he broke things off with Autumn, December 1987? (I know she was around for Christmas, but not much longer). So that would put the plane crash that Robert believed killed Holly at about April.
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Post by diane75 on May 16, 2015 8:38:39 GMT -5
Hi all. Now I have a question more about Robert, and I apologize for asking, as it has to do with him and Catherine. When did they get engaged? Again, sorry for bringing up this memory, but thanks in advance for the help
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Post by laura on May 25, 2015 19:03:45 GMT -5
Hi all. Now I have a question more about Robert, and I apologize for asking, as it has to do with him and Catherine. When did they get engaged? Again, sorry for bringing up this memory, but thanks in advance for the help On Robert/Katherine's you tube channel---Their engagement Dec 1989.
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Post by diane75 on Aug 11, 2015 1:07:48 GMT -5
OK, because I know how much of a devout fan you are, I went back and checked, meaning watched some of the virus crap on YT . From what I found ES was on from around Fe. 20 - Feb. 28. Then she was back in May or even early April. That'S all I've got for ya, sorry.
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Post by suttonboy on Jul 17, 2016 16:58:31 GMT -5
What do we know about Robert and Holly's current whereabouts and relationship. IIRC they didn't get a proper exit last time and just disappeared. Am I right in thinking that Robert and Holly are living together still and have Ethan with them? And not so much a question as a comment. Just because we got the awful adultery retcon that gave us Ethan (I like Ethan a lot, I just don't like that he is Luke's son, he should've been Robert's) that doesn't mean that Holly couldn't have had a coma baby stolen from her as well. I'd love if they brought them back and revealed their child was stolen, giving them a story to find their child and I'd have them remarry once they had their child back. I'd also give them identical twins, GH could have a lot of fun with a good twin/bad twin set of siblings, as well as growing the Scorpio family. Giving them twins and a wedding would be a nice gift to the fans who've been treated badly by tptb in recent years with the adultery retcon and writing Holly out of character badly in the past.
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Post by louisa on Jul 17, 2016 23:03:26 GMT -5
What do we know about Robert and Holly's current whereabouts and relationship. IIRC they didn't get a proper exit last time and just disappeared. Am I right in thinking that Robert and Holly are living together still and have Ethan with them? And not so much a question as a comment. Just because we got the awful adultery retcon that gave us Ethan (I like Ethan a lot, I just don't like that he is Luke's son, he should've been Robert's) that doesn't mean that Holly couldn't have had a coma baby stolen from her as well. I'd love if they brought them back and revealed their child was stolen, giving them a story to find their child and I'd have them remarry once they had their child back. I'd also give them identical twins, GH could have a lot of fun with a good twin/bad twin set of siblings, as well as growing the Scorpio family. Giving them twins and a wedding would be a nice gift to the fans who've been treated badly by tptb in recent years with the adultery retcon and writing Holly out of character badly in the past. Welcome to the Board! Well, we don't know what the current status of our couple is. This new regime just doesn't address them at all. Robert didn't mention either Holly or Ethan on his last visit, and even he was written off this last time with very little fanfare. It was obvious that they brought Tristan back simply for stunt-casting. How wonderful would it be for Robert & Holly to have a child/children out there after all? The network allowed Tony Geary to totally screw not one, but two fanbases just because he liked acting with Nathan Parsons and because he wanted Luke to go darker. The one "positive" twist that happened though was that many of us believe that Ron Carlivati retconned Guza's retcon! Holly's story completely changed when she visited in 2015. She said that she was "alone", and the way she told the story made it seem like Robert was not at all in her life at the time--she didn't even mention Robert. So most of us interpret that as Carlivati's way of "muddying" the timeline so that it shifted to Holly running into Luke AFTER she came out of her coma. She was "alone" because Robert had moved on with his life thinking she was dead. Thus, while Luke did indeed cheat on Laura, Holly did NOT cheat on Robert. Now, will that retconned version remain? Who knows!! Finally, Tristan tweeted a couple of weeks ago that Robert & Holly need closure and not be hanging out there. Someone mentioned them happily going on an adventure, to which Tristan replied that wasn't what he meant. I do think he wants Robert & Holly reunited (he's said this repeatedly in the past), but he's not holding out for some big storyline adventure. I think he just wants them quickly & simply reunited and sent off into the sunset, which would be fine with me!!
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Post by suttonboy on Jul 18, 2016 20:30:28 GMT -5
It would be lovely if we got a happy ending for Robert and Holly. If nothing else they could mention them being a couple off screen. Just a little thing would be a big hit with fans. There's always hope. Until proven otherwise I'm going to continue thinking Robert and Holly are together. I'm still disappointed they didn't fix Ethan's paternity to be Robert's before they left last time.
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Post by louisa on Jul 21, 2016 12:20:37 GMT -5
It would be lovely if we got a happy ending for Robert and Holly. If nothing else they could mention them being a couple off screen. Just a little thing would be a big hit with fans. There's always hope. Until proven otherwise I'm going to continue thinking Robert and Holly are together. I'm still disappointed they didn't fix Ethan's paternity to be Robert's before they left last time. I agree completely. While I would rather see them together at least one more time onscreen, I could happily live with one line confirming that they are indeed together.
I don't blame our fellow RnH'ers who want to see Robert & Holly in a full-fledged storyline, but the reality is that I just don't see the network putting their resources into that (And TR doesn't seem to think so either). I think we should take what confirmation of Robert & Holly togetherness we can get!
I have been unwavering in my opinion that GH will end very soon; I just want to know that our couple has found their way back to one another and will be together forever in post-GH cancellation eternity!!
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Post by suttonboy on Jul 21, 2016 16:27:29 GMT -5
I do fear GH will end soon. I'd love an actual story with Robert and Holly, but yes, barring that even a mention of them being off together off screen would be a gift. They could easily do something like show Anna a little sad and wistful at receiving a wedding announcement for Robert and Holly, then in comes her new love interest. It's not all that hard to work in something like that. I guess we should be grateful that their relationship status has at least been left vague so we can imagine what we want.
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Post by diane75 on Aug 13, 2016 16:48:00 GMT -5
Hi all. I have a question regarding Holly's return in 1992. When Holly & Robert finally met and talked about Holly's death, etc, there was a song playing in the background, a piano ballad. Does anyone know the name of this ballad?
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Post by raeperk57 on Sept 3, 2017 17:21:21 GMT -5
I have a question. Was Robert's uncle mentioned by name in any s/l? I seem to remember him talking about him to someone. If so, does anyone know where?
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Post by scorpio2011 on Sept 5, 2017 23:19:50 GMT -5
I have a question. Was Robert's uncle mentioned by name in any s/l? I seem to remember him talking about him to someone. If so, does anyone know where? The mention of his uncle came to Holly when they were coming home from Canada after the train hostage stuff. He says, "You're gonna love my uncle." No name was ever given on the show for this uncle. In fanfiction Frank is used a lot. I usually use the name Aaron as when I researched popular boy names in Australia, that was number one for the year I had him born.
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Post by scorpio2011 on Sept 5, 2017 23:33:15 GMT -5
Hi all. I have a question regarding Holly's return in 1992. When Holly & Robert finally met and talked about Holly's death, etc, there was a song playing in the background, a piano ballad. Does anyone know the name of this ballad? The piano ballad played while Robert is searching her room is called Presumed Innocent - Remembering Caroline by John Williams and can be found on youtube under that precise title I'll have to check & see if it's the same song. But this is a start. And for those who may want to know ... the Mexican Pool scene music is called Life Is My Song by Herb Alpert and the entire song can be found on youtube as well.
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Post by scorpio2011 on Sept 5, 2017 23:38:16 GMT -5
Diane I just listened to Robert and Holly talking ... the scene where she's in that awesome red dress, if that's the one, it's the same song as I mentioned above.
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