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Post by laura on Feb 27, 2010 11:53:54 GMT -5
Although it was a real heartbreaker. I especially loved the buildup to R&H seeing each other again.Eventhough I've seen it many times it still give me butterflies to this day.
I loved Robert descriptions of Holly.He describe her to a T and even mentioned her dimples.He was really confused.
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Post by lakesgirl on Feb 27, 2010 22:31:24 GMT -5
On the anticipation of it all. I see remember being so excited that Robert and Holly were finally going to be reunited. Too bad, I'm STILL waiting.  |
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Post by lakesgirl on Feb 27, 2010 22:54:50 GMT -5
I gotta say this is the 1992 scene that gives me butterflies. It gets to me every time.
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Post by mike on Feb 28, 2010 11:31:16 GMT -5
I know there are people who don't like the 1992 stuff but I think it was beautifully written for the most part and absolutely wonderfully acted by both Tristan and Emma. Tristan hated the remarriage with Anna story and it kinda showed. As good an actor as he is, a spark was gone from him during that time. But that spark turned into a flame when Holly was brought back in the picture.
The writers were in a tough spot because he was leaving, Robert was together with Anna (who was no longer on the show) and Emma was staying. I applaud Tristan when he said he went to Gloria Monty and wanted Holly to have been held against her will by her family. But I see the predicament of the writers had they done that.
If Holly were 100% blameless for her 4 1/2 year absence---what would keep Robert from falling into her arms ? Yeah, I know we all wanted to see that----but as much as I can't stand Anna---it's not in Robert's character to kick his "wife" to the curb while she's kidnapped to get back with Holly. I think the writers made a good compromise. Holly was indeed blameless for Robert thinking she was dead. She was in a coma and had no control over what her family did.
But then half way into that time, she woke up---and then she takes blame for not coming back to him. I think the writers did a good job though of making Holly sympathetic---of understanding how she could do that even if we didn't agree with it. But it was just enough to keep Robert hurt enough that they couldn't just fall into each others arms. But we saw the love was there. We saw that Robert was torn---he said he was torn. We saw Anna revealed in yet another lie that angered Robert. Plenty of angst which left everything up in the air with nothing settled.
And I guess that's why people still discuss this so much now. In a perfect world, I wish Tristan would've signed on for another year, Finola would've stuck around longer and Holly could've been held by her family the whole time and then we could've seen it all play out with Robert ending up back with Holly and then the two of them leave together when their contracts were up. But those weren't the circumstances and I think the writers did a pretty good job with the cards they were dealt. A billion times better than 2006 and 2009.
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Post by scruffy on Feb 28, 2010 16:39:35 GMT -5
I gotta say this is the 1992 scene that gives me butterflies. It gets to me every time. They both looked fantastic in this scene |
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Post by rhda8386 on Feb 28, 2010 22:22:16 GMT -5
I know there are people who don't like the 1992 stuff but I think it was beautifully written for the most part and absolutely wonderfully acted by both Tristan and Emma. Tristan hated the remarriage with Anna story and it kinda showed. As good an actor as he is, a spark was gone from him during that time. But that spark turned into a flame when Holly was brought back in the picture. The writers were in a tough spot because he was leaving, Robert was together with Anna (who was no longer on the show) and Emma was staying. I applaud Tristan when he said he went to Gloria Monty and wanted Holly to have been held against her will by her family. But I see the predicament of the writers had they done that. If Holly were 100% blameless for her 4 1/2 year absence---what would keep Robert from falling into her arms ? Yeah, I know we all wanted to see that----but as much as I can't stand Anna---it's not in Robert's character to kick his "wife" to the curb while she's kidnapped to get back with Holly. I think the writers made a good compromise. Holly was indeed blameless for Robert thinking she was dead. She was in a coma and had no control over what her family did. But then half way into that time, she woke up---and then she takes blame for not coming back to him. I think the writers did a good job though of making Holly sympathetic---of understanding how she could do that even if we didn't agree with it. But it was just enough to keep Robert hurt enough that they couldn't just fall into each others arms. But we saw the love was there. We saw that Robert was torn---he said he was torn. We saw Anna revealed in yet another lie that angered Robert. Plenty of angst which left everything up in the air with nothing settled. And I guess that's why people still discuss this so much now. In a perfect world, I wish Tristan would've signed on for another year, Finola would've stuck around longer and Holly could've been held by her family the whole time and then we could've seen it all play out with Robert ending up back with Holly and then the two of them leave together when their contracts were up. But those weren't the circumstances and I think the writers did a pretty good job with the cards they were dealt. A billion times better than 2006 and 2009. I like everything you wrote here, it would have compromised Robert for him to kick Anna to the curb and some folks might not agree with me, but I don't like that they were suggesting that Anna was somehow in on something with Faison; I think had TR stayed, they were ready to go in an Anna is really, really bad direction and as much as I wanted RnH back, I did not want it at the expense of Anna's character. She came a long way from 85-91 and I would have hated for them to disregard all of that and write her as they did when she first appeared. Would have been much better to hear that Duke was alive and had saved her from Faison ;D. |
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Post by rhda8386 on Feb 28, 2010 22:24:25 GMT -5
I gotta say this is the 1992 scene that gives me butterflies. It gets to me every time. I loved that music they used for those scenes, I think it added to the butterfly effect  |
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Post by lakesgirl on Mar 1, 2010 13:43:39 GMT -5
I know there are people who don't like the 1992 stuff but I think it was beautifully written for the most part and absolutely wonderfully acted by both Tristan and Emma. Tristan hated the remarriage with Anna story and it kinda showed. As good an actor as he is, a spark was gone from him during that time. But that spark turned into a flame when Holly was brought back in the picture. The writers were in a tough spot because he was leaving, Robert was together with Anna (who was no longer on the show) and Emma was staying. I applaud Tristan when he said he went to Gloria Monty and wanted Holly to have been held against her will by her family. But I see the predicament of the writers had they done that. If Holly were 100% blameless for her 4 1/2 year absence---what would keep Robert from falling into her arms ? Yeah, I know we all wanted to see that----but as much as I can't stand Anna---it's not in Robert's character to kick his "wife" to the curb while she's kidnapped to get back with Holly. I think the writers made a good compromise. Holly was indeed blameless for Robert thinking she was dead. She was in a coma and had no control over what her family did. But then half way into that time, she woke up---and then she takes blame for not coming back to him. I think the writers did a good job though of making Holly sympathetic---of understanding how she could do that even if we didn't agree with it. But it was just enough to keep Robert hurt enough that they couldn't just fall into each others arms. But we saw the love was there. We saw that Robert was torn---he said he was torn. We saw Anna revealed in yet another lie that angered Robert. Plenty of angst which left everything up in the air with nothing settled. And I guess that's why people still discuss this so much now. In a perfect world, I wish Tristan would've signed on for another year, Finola would've stuck around longer and Holly could've been held by her family the whole time and then we could've seen it all play out with Robert ending up back with Holly and then the two of them leave together when their contracts were up. But those weren't the circumstances and I think the writers did a pretty good job with the cards they were dealt. A billion times better than 2006 and 2009. I like everything you wrote here, it would have compromised Robert for him to kick Anna to the curb and some folks might not agree with me, but I don't like that they were suggesting that Anna was somehow in on something with Faison; I think had TR stayed, they were ready to go in an Anna is really, really bad direction and as much as I wanted RnH back, I did not want it at the expense of Anna's character. She came a long way from 85-91 and I would have hated for them to disregard all of that and write her as they did when she first appeared. Would have been much better to hear that Duke was alive and had saved her from Faison ;D. I agree with you to an extent, rhda. I do think they were heading in the direction of Anna and Faison having some sort of relationship. I honestly didn't want to have Anna go really bad because I think that would have made the choice too easy for Robert. Almost like well Anna is so evil so I'll decide to stay with Holly. I wanted Robert to choose Holly because she was the love of his life - not settle for her. But I did want the Anna/Faison relationship explored. He was the one who got her into the DVX and I definitely think that could have been some interesting story telling. And I like your Duke scenario. I think that would have played out very well. |
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Post by rhda8386 on Mar 1, 2010 20:12:22 GMT -5
I like everything you wrote here, it would have compromised Robert for him to kick Anna to the curb and some folks might not agree with me, but I don't like that they were suggesting that Anna was somehow in on something with Faison; I think had TR stayed, they were ready to go in an Anna is really, really bad direction and as much as I wanted RnH back, I did not want it at the expense of Anna's character. She came a long way from 85-91 and I would have hated for them to disregard all of that and write her as they did when she first appeared. Would have been much better to hear that Duke was alive and had saved her from Faison ;D. I agree with you to an extent, rhda. I do think they were heading in the direction of Anna and Faison having some sort of relationship. I honestly didn't want to have Anna go really bad because I think that would have made the choice too easy for Robert. Almost like well Anna is so evil so I'll decide to stay with Holly. I wanted Robert to choose Holly because she was the love of his life - not settle for her. But I did want the Anna/Faison relationship explored. He was the one who got her into the DVX and I definitely think that could have been some interesting story telling. And I like your Duke scenario. I think that would have played out very well. Yeah, I wanted to know more about her childhood experiences with him, but I didn't want to see her currently "on his side." And yeah, making her evil would have been a cop-out, I wonder, also, if it was some sort of vengeance of FH for leaving? |
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Post by Giada on Mar 2, 2010 4:09:23 GMT -5
I love the triangles without a bad and a good, where all the parts are good and bad at the same time, like the R/H/L triangle. In that case Holly chose Robert only because she loved him. I really wanted a R/H/A triangle but I don't wanted Anna go bad for the same reason.
But I could stand it for seeing RnH together again ;D
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Post by Rod123 on Mar 15, 2010 9:17:49 GMT -5
I loved Holly's initial return in 1992.Tristan and Emma were on fire together.They still had it going on.Holly's return went downhill when Robert's left.I maintained that Holly should have only been brought back to take Robert off the show.Her staying around didn't served any purpose.I wanted to see Robert and Holly.I had no interest in watching her with the many duds they had sniffing around her.
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Post by robertluvsholly on Jun 10, 2013 21:35:17 GMT -5
I love the scene posted here of Robert and Holly really seeing each other again for the first time in years. I love the emotion both TR and ES bring to the scene.
Here is the interview from Entertainment Tonight with both Tristan and Emma. Remember when a soap star *coming home* rated this type of publicity??? Also, always interesting to see dress rehersal vs finished product.
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Post by parismimi on Jun 10, 2013 23:14:32 GMT -5
I know there are people who don't like the 1992 stuff but I think it was beautifully written for the most part and absolutely wonderfully acted by both Tristan and Emma. Tristan hated the remarriage with Anna story and it kinda showed. As good an actor as he is, a spark was gone from him during that time. But that spark turned into a flame when Holly was brought back in the picture. The writers were in a tough spot because he was leaving, Robert was together with Anna (who was no longer on the show) and Emma was staying. I applaud Tristan when he said he went to Gloria Monty and wanted Holly to have been held against her will by her family. But I see the predicament of the writers had they done that. If Holly were 100% blameless for her 4 1/2 year absence---what would keep Robert from falling into her arms ? Yeah, I know we all wanted to see that----but as much as I can't stand Anna---it's not in Robert's character to kick his "wife" to the curb while she's kidnapped to get back with Holly. I think the writers made a good compromise. Holly was indeed blameless for Robert thinking she was dead. She was in a coma and had no control over what her family did. But then half way into that time, she woke up---and then she takes blame for not coming back to him. I think the writers did a good job though of making Holly sympathetic---of understanding how she could do that even if we didn't agree with it. But it was just enough to keep Robert hurt enough that they couldn't just fall into each others arms. But we saw the love was there. We saw that Robert was torn---he said he was torn. We saw Anna revealed in yet another lie that angered Robert. Plenty of angst which left everything up in the air with nothing settled. And I guess that's why people still discuss this so much now. In a perfect world, I wish Tristan would've signed on for another year, Finola would've stuck around longer and Holly could've been held by her family the whole time and then we could've seen it all play out with Robert ending up back with Holly and then the two of them leave together when their contracts were up. But those weren't the circumstances and I think the writers did a pretty good job with the cards they were dealt. A billion times better than 2006 and 2009. Mike, I also agree with your analysis. I agree with you about there never being any spark between Robert and Anna - that whole "romance" never caught on with me, it always felt like two good friends playing at being in love due to circumstance. Robert and Holly had that magical presence - they lit up the screen when they were in a scene together. There was still so much chemistry in that initial return. Tristan, as all great actors do, understood Robert completely and made us understand him as well; and Tristan's been pretty vocal about many of the things he's disagreed with over the years: the remarriage to Anna, the destruction of nuHolly as a character, the portrayal of nuRobert as a deadbeat dad...why they have taken much beloved legacy characters and turned them into unrecognizable caricatures (there are too many to list as if what they've done to these three weren't bad enough!), I will never understand. Then they wonder why the ratings suffer! But back to your point, it really was heart-wrenching to see Holly and Robert together yet apart. You could almost feel the weight of their suffering at remembering what they had and lost. I will forever feel that Holly and Robert belong together - and it's not something that I've felt with many other couples! Sort of like their generation's Lila and Edward (w/o the cheating, lol), but definitely in terms of couples that were meant to last. Apart from Robin, everything connected to Anna and Robert just never sat well with me and I still have such a hard time with it all these years later. I just feel that she brought him so much grief over the years. Any way, I wonder if anything will ever be settled with Robert and Holly with all the writers have done to them over the years. It's been incredibly bizarre considering the really rich characters and situations that they have had to work with! You'd think they'd make the most of the talent at their disposal! You'd think they wouldn't dream up things that were completely out of character when they know that people have been watching the show for decades and have loved some of these characters and come to know them inside and out!  <img style="max-width:100%;" alt="" src=" !["]() "> |
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Post by parismimi on Jun 10, 2013 23:24:40 GMT -5
Although it was a real heartbreaker. I especially loved the buildup to R&H seeing each other again.Eventhough I've seen it many times it still give me butterflies to this day. I loved Robert descriptions of Holly.He describe her to a T and even mentioned her dimples.He was really confused. This was such a tearjerker of a "reunion" - powerful stuff that never fails to make me emotional every time I see it. They so BELONG to each other even though circumstances forced them apart. They really convey that in their interaction in these scenes. It bears repeating: powerful stuff! |
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Post by parismimi on Jun 10, 2013 23:41:03 GMT -5
I love the triangles without a bad and a good, where all the parts are good and bad at the same time, like the R/H/L triangle. In that case Holly chose Robert only because she loved him. I really wanted a R/H/A triangle but I don't wanted Anna go bad for the same reason. But I could stand it for seeing RnH together again ;D GH knew how to rock triangles back in the day, lol (shout out to Alan, Rick and Monica, rotfl) - like you, I love how the R/H/L triangle worked out. That was handled so beautifully  I'm sorry but I was never so fond of Anna to care if she reverted to being "bad" - even when she was redeemed, there was too much about the things she did and continued to do that I didn't like. I could definitely have stood it for seeing RnH together. IMHO, they had sacrificed way too much on the altar of Anna Devane: RnH and Bert Ramsey come to mind |
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I'm sorry but I was never so fond of Anna to care if she reverted to being "bad" - even when she was redeemed, there was too much about the things she did and continued to do that I didn't like. I could definitely have stood it for seeing RnH together. IMHO, they had sacrificed way too much on the altar of Anna Devane: RnH and Bert Ramsey come to mind