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Post by HollyX3 on Feb 21, 2012 0:13:17 GMT -5
Soooo Looking forward to see what will come , its seems everything is pointing to good things , sooo fingers crossed
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Post by lakesgirl on Mar 9, 2012 17:04:26 GMT -5
tristanrogers @tristanrogers From what I've read many people upset over Scorpio's departure. I think they'll be upset over lots of things in the next few months.
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Post by laura on Mar 9, 2012 17:24:10 GMT -5
Well, who cares Robert and Holly is off together..That's all I care about.
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Post by lakesgirl on Mar 9, 2012 17:29:04 GMT -5
Well, who cares Robert and Holly is off together..That's all I care about. Well I do care if they bring back Holly to be with Luke. Or kill off Robert. At this point, I just want them to leave R&H alone. I tell you, this tweet scares me.
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Post by The Commish on Mar 9, 2012 17:41:03 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that he knows what the next months will bring, in detail. He's not even on contract. From what I know of Tristan, I think he likes to stir things up. Maybe he wants to worry you, so that you will write and call, and make your feelings known. ( with constructive criticism ) It might not be too late to influence things.
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Post by The Commish on Mar 9, 2012 17:45:35 GMT -5
By the way, it appears that TR deleted this tweet. Can we just pretend it was never there? LOL
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Post by marni on Mar 9, 2012 18:40:40 GMT -5
tristanrogers @tristanrogers Overall the writing quality was good. But I think Robert should be around for the funeral. Who agrees?
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Post by irishrose on Mar 9, 2012 19:35:17 GMT -5
Well, who cares Robert and Holly is off together..That's all I care about. Well I do care if they bring back Holly to be with Luke. Or kill off Robert. At this point, I just want them to leave R&H alone. I tell you, this tweet scares me. Don't ask me why, but I laughed when I read TR's tweet. It's vague enough and broad enough to mean just about anything and it could also be part of a campaign to keep people watching. And with the news that TR deleted that tweet, I'm deleting the rest of my post.
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Post by lgentili1972 on Mar 9, 2012 20:22:52 GMT -5
I didn't really think it had to do with Robert and Holly. If Holly comes back without Robert and is with Luke I will stop watching. I can't see that happening. As upset as I am over Ethan not being their son and Holly lying to Robert I don't see her with Luke. Robert and Holly left together. We should be happy with that, right?
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Post by mrsbig on Mar 10, 2012 14:33:27 GMT -5
I didn't really think it had to do with Robert and Holly. If Holly comes back without Robert and is with Luke I will stop watching. I can't see that happening. As upset as I am over Ethan not being their son and Holly lying to Robert I don't see her with Luke. Robert and Holly left together. We should be happy with that, right? We should be but...I for one am not. I'm glad they're together. I'm glad that she showed a little of the old Holly & I suppose I have to glad no further damage was done (though I don't ever wanna see her touch Luke again, not even shake his hand. In fact I don't even wanna see her touch a picture of Luke. It makes me sick.). I really wanted that bullshit with Holly cheating to be taken away. I hate that now she's just another bed-hoping slut like every other woman on a soap and as long as Ethan remains the son of loser Luke that's all she'll be (to me anyway) Hell if her reputation is not going to be restored then I might as well be a Carly fan. It'll be a cold day in hell when that happens. Like I said before, I don't even need Emma on my screen to fix this. Helena coming in and telling Luke Ethan isn't his and that she did something to alter reality, I'm fine with that just as long the end result is that Holly and loser haven't slept together since he left for a walk in the snow) Ron just needs some imagination. And I watched todays ep, I felt like I was in Llanview PA. It sucked. Scorpio, Just wanna say, I love most of your posts critiquing the Ethan paternity s/l (despite your slant against Luke and my fave, Anna). Love your honesty and uncompromising attitude. Carlivati ruined this story big time. There is no excuse. He can't blame this one on Wolf like he did for Robin's death. He read over the scripts before they went into production. Don't understand how some are acting like it was a brief encounter with a wolf during a peaceful walk in the woods.
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Post by mrsbig on Mar 10, 2012 16:59:08 GMT -5
Scorpio, Just wanna say, I love most of your posts critiquing the Ethan paternity s/l (despite your slant against Luke and my fave, Anna). Love your honesty and uncompromising attitude. Carlivati ruined this story big time. There is no excuse. He can't blame this one on Wolf like he did for Robin's death. He read over the scripts before they went into production. Don't understand how some are acting like it was a brief encounter with a wolf during a peaceful walk in the woods. Thank you and sorry about that mrsbig. I don't mean to offend anyone about the Luke stuff (I've just never liked him guess that's obvious) and I won't even start on Anna. I will however try to refrain from the bashing in the future as I always hate it when someone bashes Holly or Robert. That's probably from hanging out on that damn SOC board and all the Holly haters there. They turned my hate valve on and it's still flowing. I do agree 100 percent that Ron blew this one. He had six days to become a huge hero by fixing the mess Guza created and Wolf fed but he failed. I don't understand how he could let that opportunity slip by. People have asked if he had fixed everything this time then what would RH do on their next visit. It seems to me that with Mac, Patrick and Emma left in PC there's plenty they could come for (and hopefully as a couple). God knows PC is not a safe place to live anymore so maybe there's plenty of reasons. I can think of a dozen right off the top of my head but we're just the ones they're beggin' to tune in everyday but so far they haven't given me a reason to. Typing this I came up with another little scenario, they find out Ethan is theirs, bring in Helena and the mind altering thing cause I really want that cheater tag taken off of Holly, Helena is pissed yet again only this time she goes after Robert so she kidnaps Emma (I'd love a good story that involves her. She's adorable) Anna can be away in who cares land and unreachable for this one as far as I'm concerned (damn I swear I'll find the shut off valve for that) RH could come and fight Helena to get her back. I think I need to go write a fanfic. Excellent idea. We all should be getting out our fanfic laptops (yes without Anna. I'd be happy to provide you a place for her to be!) I'm not sure what it is but somehow, I just laugh off your rips on Luke (sort of neutral on him anyway) and Anna. They don't seem intentionally harmful, but I do think it may do you some good to exorcise the hate and ban SOC in your life. All the fans of the vets want the same thing: writing that at least tries to be true to the goodness in these characters. Not too much to ask. If we concede that they did the best they could or it wasn't so bad, we'd be lying to ourselves.
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Post by irishrose on Mar 10, 2012 18:13:11 GMT -5
Scorpio2011 and mrsbig, I think you've got a great idea. Fanfics are the order of the day and if I can come up with something worth reading, I'll definitely add my own.
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Post by lgentili1972 on Mar 11, 2012 12:10:07 GMT -5
I keep going back to TR's original tweet. I really hope that didn't reflect towards Robert and Holly. I don't think so but I hope not.
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Post by mike on Mar 11, 2012 12:19:49 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that he knows what the next months will bring, in detail. He's not even on contract. From what I know of Tristan, I think he likes to stir things up. Maybe he wants to worry you, so that you will write and call, and make your feelings known. ( with constructive criticism ) It might not be too late to influence things. Exactly. Remember, this is the guy who said that he specifically told them NOT to tell him what he would be doing because he just wanted to get the scripts and be surprised. So he didn't even know what Robert was going to do---he doesn't know what is coming in the months to come. I noticed another response he gave to someone complaining about the OLTL characters where he was in agreement----so I think this "months to come" thing might stem from him falling into the "OLTL Invasion" camp. This may be unpopular but I LOVE crossovers and I wish all 3 ABC soaps had done much more of this over the years. It's exciting to see characters cross paths who ordinarily never would---at least to me. Of course, for me---GH had become unwatchable under JFP and Guza (literally, since I stopped watching it) and OLTL was a million times more entertaining. So I am enjoying this. It was really fun to see Blair and Carly meet and I can't wait for the standoff between Todd and Sonny. I know we disagree on this----but anything that can make me remotely interested in seeing Sonny is pretty damn impressive to me.
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Post by mike on Mar 11, 2012 12:30:36 GMT -5
I actually enjoyed Friday's episode because I was fascinated to see Blair and Carly meet and the Todd and Sonny confrontation.
I really do feel like there wasn't much more damage done to Holly this time around. I know we have all this Guza stuff swirling around and it kind of clouds things (a dark, black, ominous cloud) but if we try to strip that away----Holly didn't really do anything Guza like. The entire appearance had her mostly concerned for her son's safety---she even saved his life. I wanted to puke when she said those things about Luke that one day, but we learned it was a lie. That was a double-edged sword because it meant Ethan wasn't a Scorpio---but HUGE relief that she does not want Luke back.
If they could present Luke and Holly as friends and nothing more---I am OK with that. I did not mind their hug at the end because this time (compared to 2009) they truly seemed like friends---just as they were friends after their love affair ended. She was rushing off on an adventure with Robert and saying goodbye to her friend. If we could be gauranteed that all future Luke and Holly scenes would be just friends, I would be OK with that. No hint of romance---just like Anna and Robert.
The only lies Holly told this time---they weren't for monetary gain. They were to save her son----and then to save Robert. And the lie to Robert came from Luke not her. I see all of that as a huge difference between this and Guza Holly.
In the end, they are together. I LOVED that Luke told her to take him back to Australia. It felt like their 1985 happy ending was getting reinstated. I do hate that the cheating has stood. But for Holly, at least---it was one night, one time. Even Duke had his one night with Olivia (altho he was totally out of it) and now we have serial cheating Luke. It's the unfortunate state of soaps today. Now Holly had one night with Luke. I can deal with it if I have to, especially if they put it in the past and keep it there. I also think that Robert could easily forgive Holly about this lie about Ethan. These days, soap characters do so many worse things that they are forgiven for. Plus, I still believe Ethan is a Scorpio. The lie is the truth. I just hope the show will still reveal that.
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