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Post by laura on Mar 11, 2012 12:30:44 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that he knows what the next months will bring, in detail. He's not even on contract. From what I know of Tristan, I think he likes to stir things up. Maybe he wants to worry you, so that you will write and call, and make your feelings known. ( with constructive criticism ) It might not be too late to influence things. Exactly. Remember, this is the guy who said that he specifically told them NOT to tell him what he would be doing because he just wanted to get the scripts and be surprised. So he didn't even know what Robert was going to do---he doesn't know what is coming in the months to come. I noticed another response he gave to someone complaining about the OLTL characters where he was in agreement----so I think this "months to come" thing might stem from him falling into the "OLTL Invasion" camp. This may be unpopular but I LOVE crossovers and I wish all 3 ABC soaps had done much more of this over the years. It's exciting to see characters cross paths who ordinarily never would---at least to me. Of course, for me---GH had become unwatchable under JFP and Guza (literally, since I stopped watching it) and OLTL was a million times more entertaining. So I am enjoying this. It was really fun to see Blair and Carly meet and I can't wait for the standoff between Todd and Sonny. I know we disagree on this----but anything that can make me remotely interested in seeing Sonny is pretty damn impressive to me.  Mike, I thought the OLTL coming over was an excellent idea for ratings but not at the expense at the GH characters we want to see. I want Robert in town indefinitely, I want Holly to come in and out. TR can't get something permanent? Why? And even if he's willing to work without a contract he only get 6 days? GMAB, but all the OLTL actors has contracts and that's just not fair to me. I have never watch OLTL so, I didn't start watching GH again to see them. I started watching again for Robert and Holly and their history was twisted, they weren't written well, their epic love story tainted and now they're gone. |
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Post by mike on Mar 11, 2012 13:04:20 GMT -5
Exactly. Remember, this is the guy who said that he specifically told them NOT to tell him what he would be doing because he just wanted to get the scripts and be surprised. So he didn't even know what Robert was going to do---he doesn't know what is coming in the months to come. I noticed another response he gave to someone complaining about the OLTL characters where he was in agreement----so I think this "months to come" thing might stem from him falling into the "OLTL Invasion" camp. This may be unpopular but I LOVE crossovers and I wish all 3 ABC soaps had done much more of this over the years. It's exciting to see characters cross paths who ordinarily never would---at least to me. Of course, for me---GH had become unwatchable under JFP and Guza (literally, since I stopped watching it) and OLTL was a million times more entertaining. So I am enjoying this. It was really fun to see Blair and Carly meet and I can't wait for the standoff between Todd and Sonny. I know we disagree on this----but anything that can make me remotely interested in seeing Sonny is pretty damn impressive to me. Mike, I thought the OLTL coming over was an excellent idea for ratings but not at the expense at the GH characters we want to see. I want Robert in town indefinitely, I want Holly to come in and out. TR can't get something permanent? Why? And even if he's willing to work without a contract he only get 6 days? GMAB, but all the OLTL actors has contracts and that's just not fair to me. I have never watch OLTL so, I didn't start watching GH again to see them. I started watching again for Robert and Holly and their history was twisted, they weren't written well, their epic love story tainted and now they're gone. I honestly think Robert only getting 6 episodes was because Emma could only do 6 episodes. I think Ron intentionally wanted to send Robert and Holly off together. Believe it or not, I do think he thinks that is the couple---not Anna and Robert and certainly not Luke and Holly. I know people think that McBain is taking Robert's slot but Robert is not a cop. He hasn't been for many years so I am not really convinced of that. There can be plenty for Robert to do that has nothing to do with anything McBain would be doing. I really think Robert not staying isn't because of OLTL characters---it's because they actually wanted to have RnH ride off into the sunset. There is one big cloud in that sunset----Ethan Spencer but I am still hoping there is another shoe to drop on this. |
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Post by lgentili1972 on Mar 11, 2012 13:10:13 GMT -5
Mike, you and I definitely think alike on this. If it is the end of Robert and Holly than they left together and I believe that is what the writers wanted us to have, too. We have to remember too, that Emma thought we would really like her last scene. We did, right?
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Post by travlingal35 on Mar 11, 2012 21:39:43 GMT -5
I didn't really think it had to do with Robert and Holly. If Holly comes back without Robert and is with Luke I will stop watching. I can't see that happening. As upset as I am over Ethan not being their son and Holly lying to Robert I don't see her with Luke. Robert and Holly left together. We should be happy with that, right? We should be but...I for one am not. I'm glad they're together. I'm glad that she showed a little of the old Holly & I suppose I have to glad no further damage was done (though I don't ever wanna see her touch Luke again, not even shake his hand. In fact I don't even wanna see her touch a picture of Luke. It makes me sick.). I really wanted that bullshit with Holly cheating to be taken away. I hate that now she's just another bed-hoping slut like every other woman on a soap and as long as Ethan remains the son of loser Luke that's all she'll be (to me anyway) Hell if her reputation is not going to be restored then I might as well be a Carly fan. It'll be a cold day in hell when that happens.  Like I said before, I don't even need Emma on my screen to fix this. Helena coming in and telling Luke Ethan isn't his and that she did something to alter reality, I'm fine with that just as long the end result is that Holly and loser haven't slept together since he left for a walk in the snow) Ron just needs some imagination. And I watched todays ep, I felt like I was in Llanview PA. It sucked. I agree with you Scorpio2011. What I'm most angry about is the implication that Holly cheated on Robert with Luke. I just can't accept it. And Luke wouldn't have cheated on Laura either. The sad thing is that anyone who started watching GH after 1993 never knew the real Holly and Robert and it's understandable that they hate Holly and think she's a slut. I don't care how they undo this unimaginative one night stand between Holly and Luke, but it needs to be done. |
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Post by mrsbig on Mar 13, 2012 11:53:55 GMT -5
You know things are bad when we got maybe 2 good scenes each and 1 good scene together with the rest a complete mischaracterization and to boot, was some gobbledygook thrown together that wasn't making any sense. Add to that, Ethan' paternity is another droppped storyline which Guza and Wolf were known for. To me, this says nothing has changed at GH despite the change in show runners. Sure they switched up the production and who the leads (kinda of) are but for example, they've got two Sonnys now and two Carleys (w/Todd and Blair on the show.)
The momentum of the Robin death storyline has been lost completely. And c'mon you guys, when we are concerned about them showing all of our 80s leads together on screen because we think they may mispair them with the wrong one, things are still bad. Valentini and Carlivati have a LOT to prove to lapsed fans of the 80s.
As a woman, I was completely and utterly offended by Luke and Robert calling Holly a slut. WTH kind of show is this?
I am still tuning in for Robin's memorial and to see what they do w/Anna and sort of watched today's ep in the background (because it was that interesting LOL) and saw that maybe there would be some change. Blair and Carly did seem to decide that Todd and Sonny were losers despite all their wonderful attributes (right, sickening to hear that LOL). Will this signal change? I am doubting it.
The only thing I do like is that they are beefing up the police department. And if they decide they wanna keep Anna out of all the police/crime related stuff, I will be upset. Don't know how some of you are not when they chose not to keep Robert on for that reason. Why couldn't they have Robert, McBain, Mac, and Anna work together? This Carlivati dude is an idiot and Valentini, though very hot looking, should be doing a lot better job supervising RC and I have little to no respect for either of them.
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Post by mrsbig on Mar 13, 2012 13:15:12 GMT -5
mrsbig why would you be upset if Anna is kept out of the crime stuff? I know there are those who like her here but seriously she sucked to high heaven as Police Chief in the 80s, why would she suddenly have improved now? They can go ahead and keep her out of the police stuff and just let John McBain be the one to "suck all the blood" out of Sonny. (okay so somebody had to make that reference sooner or later) It kinda makes sense to me. Afterall, Anna couldn't control the mob when she was in charge, Mac obviously sucks as PCPC, Dante's an idiot who can't even see his own partner is sabotaging their case, so makes sense to bring in someone fresh to clean things up. I read on one of the spoiler threads that they had originally planned on making MacBain an old friend of Robert's who comes to PC at Robert's request but apparently that didn't pan out like most of the other things we've read. Can't say I really care how they do it as long as they stop making Sonny, Carly, Jason and Luke the center of attention. I can sorta see how they're gonna do that since Roger just signed a contract with GH, it's gonna switch and be all about the Mannings. PC is getting a PA kind of facelift. That's my feel for it anyway. I think your hugely slanted bias against Anna is coming out here. She solved cases when she was Police Chief just fine and so what if she needed help w/Mr. Big? The point was that the international mob takeover was so powerful that they needed a team to get rid of them. Sort of like Ocean's Eleven before there was an Ocean's Eleven. They could've done that w/McBain, Robert, Anna, Mac, like I said. But you weren't reading my previous post obviously so won't repeat it again at the risk of boring you. |
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Post by mrsbig on Mar 13, 2012 14:58:18 GMT -5
Since I've never seen Ocean's Eleven I can't comment on that comparison but since TR is already through taping and McBain should show up anytime now, it's probably safe to say your scenario won't happen. I doubt MacBain will need Anna's "help" in any way. But then she is supposed to be sticking around to help Patrick with Emma, which that in itself is comical to me. Who knows what's going to unfold. Guess only time will tell. Not sure what you find comical about Anna helping Patrick with Emma, and I don't want to know. (sigh) Why is it some need to put down certain characters in order to make their faves look better? Because that doesn't logically work. Whether you like it or not, Anna was very popular in the 80s and still is. |
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Post by rhda8386 on Mar 13, 2012 16:50:47 GMT -5
Not sure what you find comical about Anna helping Patrick with Emma, and I don't want to know. (sigh) Why is it some need to put down certain characters in order to make their faves look better? Because that doesn't logically work. Whether you like it or not, Anna was very popular in the 80s and still is. You seem to be mistaken on several things, I have never put Anna down to make Holly look better, if you take my hate for her that way, your problem. As for the comedy in her taking care of a kid, if you miss that then it would do no good for me to explain it to you. As for her being popular, it's just a matter of to each his own. Seems like you're reading Anna the way Guza reads Holly ... as a sum total of her first 6 months on the show and nothing more.  |
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Post by The Commish on Mar 13, 2012 17:24:45 GMT -5
Ok whoa, back up. I don't llike where this is going. There are RH fans who will always dislike Anna, because what they remember most is 1985. For some of them, that's the only real experience with her that they have. Frankly, you have to tell me the year before I can tell you if I liked her or not. I liked her with Duke. She was the enemy in 85. Everyone is entitled to their opinion here, unless of course they don't like RH. ;D We have a couple members who are die hard Luke fans, and he gets trashed everyday. It's all good. It shouldnt get personal.
They bring these people back to spike the ratings, and then they don't know what to do with them. And on top of all of that, they make one day last for weeks.
And on a side note.......I don't know how this ended up on TR twitter thread. LOL.
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Post by mike on Mar 13, 2012 19:23:53 GMT -5
Mike, you and I definitely think alike on this. If it is the end of Robert and Holly than they left together and I believe that is what the writers wanted us to have, too. We have to remember too, that Emma thought we would really like her last scene. We did, right? Hate the lie but yes, I absolutely LOVED them leaving for an adventure together ! Emma was spot on right about that---at least where I am concerned. |
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Post by The Commish on Mar 13, 2012 20:18:46 GMT -5
I'm very happy that Robert and Holly are off together somewhere.
I might have even felt cheated if, in a couple of days, they resolved all of the problems and went off to live happily ever after. There's a story to be told there, and I didn't want it in 6 days. Had 06 and 09 not happened, I would have accepted the "We've been together all along" scenario. But since it's more complicated, and I want a longer storyline with a little angst and a big payoff. Ala, every RH storyline in the 80s.
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Post by lgentili1972 on Mar 13, 2012 20:49:41 GMT -5
Very true! They are together, growing closer everyday. Think of how they seemed in the few scenes we saw them together. Imagine being together everyday, the hugs, handholding. Heck, I thought Robert was going to kiss when he told her he didn't want her to worry about Ethan.
You are right, Commish. If they worked things out completely right away it would be too tidy. I would have loved, loved, loved more scenes together though.
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Post by mike on Mar 13, 2012 23:45:40 GMT -5
You know they are growing closer and closer. They have not had this kind of time together really since they were last together in 1987. In 1992 he was married to Anna. In 2006---well---Guza. Need I say more. So in 25 years, this is the first time they have gone off together just the two of them for a prolonged period of time. No way they aren't bonding big time !
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Post by lgentili1972 on Mar 13, 2012 23:49:36 GMT -5
True! True! True! ;D
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Post by rhda8386 on Mar 14, 2012 19:49:03 GMT -5
So ... who can translate this??? Anne @ahjau I realize @tristanrogers stay in Port Charles was always short term but no way is Robert Scorpio this gullible. Wish TR would stay! #GH tristanrogers @tristanrogers @ahjau Absolutely. Follow him every chance I get. 2:59 PM - 11 Mar 12 via Twitter for Android ยท Details Is he responding to the wrong tweet? Or does he follow RXS every chance he gets?  |
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