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Post by robertluvsholly on Jun 14, 2009 12:10:02 GMT -5
Well you're right he did pay for his sins and the sins of Anna in 92. I've never seen any gratitude by Anna. What do you think would have happened if Robert had confused everything to Valentine in 85? confessed in 85...earlier? Hmm. they would have still been having their 2nd anniversary and really, if it was supposed to be known- i would have rather seen it prior to their marriage or before they were totally together. but if it had to be early 85- they were really close at that point and the sting would have been really hard on Holly by that point. it just wouldn't have had anna right there and the lying prior to the reveal- which i could have lived without happily.
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Post by tidewater on Jun 14, 2009 12:33:52 GMT -5
Well you're right he did pay for his sins and the sins of Anna in 92. I've never seen any gratitude by Anna. What do you think would have happened if Robert had confused everything to Valentine in 85? confessed in 85...earlier? Hmm. they would have still been having their 2nd anniversary and really, if it was supposed to be known- i would have rather seen it prior to their marriage or before they were totally together. but if it had to be early 85- they were really close at that point and the sting would have been really hard on Holly by that point. it just wouldn't have had anna right there and the lying prior to the reveal- which i could have lived without happily. I was referring to at the end of the treasure s/l when Robert had decided to confess to Valentine and Valentine told him to basically leave it buried. Everyone had something in their past that they wanted to forget. Robert came home and told Holly about what Valentine had said and they were both relieved.
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Post by rhda8386 on Jun 17, 2009 23:37:21 GMT -5
confessed in 85...earlier? Hmm. they would have still been having their 2nd anniversary and really, if it was supposed to be known- i would have rather seen it prior to their marriage or before they were totally together. but if it had to be early 85- they were really close at that point and the sting would have been really hard on Holly by that point. it just wouldn't have had anna right there and the lying prior to the reveal- which i could have lived without happily. I was referring to at the end of the treasure s/l when Robert had decided to confess to Valentine and Valentine told him to basically leave it buried. Everyone had something in their past that they wanted to forget. Robert came home and told Holly about what Valentine had said and they were both relieved. I think Ballantine was trying to tell Robert subtly that he already knew. What I keep wondering is when somebody who cared for Swede is going to come after them ... worse than the treason was an innocent man being executed for it IMO.
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Post by The Commish on Jun 21, 2009 9:26:18 GMT -5
I think they rewrote that to redeem Anna, didn't they? The Swede didn't die?
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Post by tidewater on Jun 21, 2009 9:50:01 GMT -5
I think they rewrote the s/l in like 89 or 90 to make the Swede alive but in hiding. I think GM was back and wanted to put Robert and Anna together and this was the first step in that direction.
I don't think Robert and Anna would have stayed together if the Swede had lived. The fact that Anna was a double agent was a marriage breaker.
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Post by robertluvsholly on Jun 21, 2009 15:11:24 GMT -5
yeah, i don't think the swede's death is the only thing that broke them up. So much better that he got to live, but had to go into hiding forever to protect the life of someone who was a double agent and didn't give a damn about anyone else. Seems like the second time that happened to someone
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Post by rhda8386 on Jun 22, 2009 19:00:59 GMT -5
yeah, i don't think the swede's death is the only thing that broke them up. So much better that he got to live, but had to go into hiding forever to protect the life of someone who was a double agent and didn't give a damn about anyone else. Seems like the second time that happened to someone Oh, I still think they would have broken up, I was thinking as far as the ethics of their cover-up, an innocent man being put to death for it is worse than simply covering up the actual crime...probably why that part was re-written.
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Post by tidewater on Jun 26, 2009 7:17:44 GMT -5
The person who needed to be put to death for a crime was Sean. Since when do you execute a man for treason without a trial. Where is the due process. Where was the evidence that the Swede was the double agent?
Sean told Robert that it was probably one of the team. That meant it was either Anna, the Swede, O'Reilly, and yes even Robert. So Robert covered for Anna, how could Sean be sure it wasn't Robert or O'Reilly that was the double agent. Also, I don't remember Sean even asking Robert after the explosion if he thought that the Swede was the double agent.
Sean acted as the police, judge, and jury. The Swede deserved a trial and an opportunity to defend himself. Sean is a cold blooded killer. I know of course that the 89 rewrite had Sean convincing the Swede to live underground the rest of his life but pinning this death on Robert is ridiculous. He is guilty of being an accessory after the fact but not guilty of the death of the Swede.
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Post by HollyX3 on Jul 1, 2009 21:35:45 GMT -5
ok justr finished watching the end of night shift again ....... and OMG Sean even in those scenes was a snake in the grass !!
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Post by raeperk57 on Aug 30, 2016 19:03:36 GMT -5
I go back and forth on my feelings for Sean. Sometimes he is slimy, sometimes I like him. What can I say? I have never forgiven him for kidnapping Holly though. Ticks me off that Robert forgave him. I never liked him and I never forgave him. However, if Holly hadn't gone to his office and gotten kidnapped, we never would have had the ONE happy ending we did get.
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Post by raeperk57 on Aug 30, 2016 19:08:05 GMT -5
I really liked the actor who played Sean, John Reilly. I think he played the part of of a man who was playing both sides of Robert extremely well. And he definitely had chemistry with Tristan. That said, I hate that Robert forgave him and that he didn't really pay for kidnapping Holly. But Robert forgives everyone. Anyone remember Anna? I try to forget her. She framed Holly out of jealousy. Another character I'll never like.
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Post by raeperk57 on Aug 30, 2016 19:11:30 GMT -5
Oh no, I wouldn't ever put Sean and Duke in the same category. Not only was Duke HOT but he was always conflicted about his part in the mob. Sean was only ever conflicted towards the end when he was about to be caught. Just my opinion. Duke, hot?
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Post by danigirl on Nov 3, 2016 14:19:45 GMT -5
LOL, Yeah someone should have told him about the binaca Spray trick LOL Yes that's because he was unconsciously coveting his little woman. Notice how he is always pointing out to everyone that "LUKE IS DEAD" funny thing I noticed about the beginning of that scene is that his figures appear to have water on them....lmao. what do u think?
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